Sam Prince is joined by the one and only beautiful Amber Wagner Prince! She is not only Sam's wife, but she also holds the titles of mom, and mortgage lender. Amber joins the Creativitorium to talk about what it means to be supportive of the creative person in your life. The conversation takes place in California on their amazing spring break trip. For acting classes from your host; Sam Prince, check out his website: www.samber.productions and follow along on Instagram: www.instagram.com/samberproductions
Sam Prince 0:05 Have you ever wondered what it would be like to be a great actor on stage or television? Do you wish you had an acting coach to help you get to the next level? Or maybe you just have a great idea for a movie series are played but aren't quite sure where to start? Well, you are in the right place my friend. My name is Sam Prince and I am the director of a production company here in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and have been an actor for over 30 years. I've directed and written plays, and screenplays and taught many acting classes. This podcast is your place to learn how to move forward with your career in acting, theater, film, playwriting, screenwriting, and much more. There will be inspiring conversations with special guests as well. So welcome to the creativitorium podcast, and action. Sam Prince 1:15 All right, welcome. Welcome. Welcome to the creativitorium podcast. I'm your host, Sam Prince. I am here with the beautiful Amber Prince. How are you maam? Amber Prince 1:30 I am wonderful. Thanks so much for having me. Sam Prince 1:33 Yay. We are here at Newport Beach, California. Amber Prince 1:38 Yes, they are some spring breakers, Sam Prince 1:41 spring breakers looking out at the ocean. It's been an interesting trip, hasn't it? Amber Prince 1:48 Yes, I mean, a Midwestern girl in LA and California. Yeah, yeah. Interesting week. Sam Prince 1:54 Yes. Yes, it has. I always like to inform my guests about, you know, our itinerary and what we're doing and you said, I don't want to. So don't, don't tell me what to say. Amber Prince 2:08 We're on a different level, you and me. So I think we can have an open conversation. Sam Prince 2:13 That was true. Amber Prince 2:14 I don't need to be rehearsed for Sam Prince 2:15 this. That's right. That's right. So you have no idea what I'm about to throw at you right now. Amber Prince 2:19 This is true. Audience be prepared audience be prepared. Sam Prince 2:24 So let's talk about your acting because you've done a little bit. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And you want to do some more? Hopefully with San reproductions. Right. I would love to. Right. Yeah. So funny story. So we were first dating. I want to say this was like 2010. And I was going, I said, Hey, I saw this audition. I think it was like a student. And they wanted some parents. And I was like, Let's go audition. You're like I want to tag along kind of tag. Amber Prince 2:59 I'm like, Yeah, sure I get sound like that is how much did you say that? I said, Hey, that sounds cool. I will go with you. Sam Prince 3:09 Let's get that string. See, see? Okay, right. So you said, hey, hey, let's make a board don't lie. Okay. All right. You said hey, I'm gonna take a look. Sam Prince 3:25 So, I go to I go to audition. And, you know, read whatever the part they had, and immediately know that I didn't get the, you know, like I just said, as you get that sense, you're like, okay, they didn't like, I was not who they were looking for. But then they were like, ah, looking over my shoulder. Who's, who's your girlfriend? They're like, well, she audition. So what happened? Amber Prince 3:58 Well, first of all, we should set the stage that this is this is Grande Valley cinema students. Okay. Not that I'm anything against Grande Valley cinema students, because it was very cool that they give them this budget to do this film. I mean, that in its own was very interesting. But yeah. Oh, so let's set the stage. I mean, this is where we are. Right? We're not We're not in LA and we're not we're not Unknown Speaker 4:16 okay. Yeah. Yeah. But Amber Prince 4:19 yeah, I mean, they were looking for someone to fill a spot of a mom. Right. And you Sam Prince 4:25 got the role, and I didn't get the role. Didn't even go there for an audition. I didn't know. Man. That's a good thing. I have some self esteem. Yes. Yeah. But you did great. Do we still have that somewhere? Amber Prince 4:42 I would think it came on those discs. Yeah. Sam Prince 4:46 Yeah, yeah. We got to have that. I'm Amber Prince 4:49 sure. Yeah. I can't remember exactly what the part what what? Who I wasn't other than a mom, I think is what I was. Yeah. Right. But it was again, it was very cool. Like Grand belly had all that budget to do summer films. Sam Prince 5:03 And we weren't I mean, it was a Amber Prince 5:04 setup. They allow you to do the whole setup, which was really cool with the food and the makeup artists and we brought the kids and the experience was. Yeah, it was it was cool experience again, Grand Valley cinematography school, but still Yeah, it was fun. Sam Prince 5:21 Yeah, yeah, they do a great job. I mean, they, they're trying to be big time. You know, when they've done some full length films. Amber Prince 5:29 Yeah. So they, they, the students that graduate from there are hopes to get recognized by big producing companies. Sam Prince 5:38 Maybe they go on and get their masters and film. Okay. Amber Prince 5:43 Yeah, they did a nice job. I mean, whoever was teaching that class to the very nice job of setting them up for what to expect, right? Like how it would look at a normal video or movie shoot. Yeah. Sam Prince 5:56 Yeah. Have you done anything else? Amber Prince 6:01 Let's think about that. I mean, in high school, I was in the drama club, and I loved that. Have I done anything? I'm sure that it sounds to me like that question. Might be a little like, you know, something I've gotten? I don't know. I don't think so. Wow. Okay. Well, I've done some, like, you know, back in my young 20s, you know, modeling things, print pads and things, but I don't think I've ever done any movies. My mom probably would be the one asked, I should probably got some book of it somewhere and old stack of video. Sam Prince 6:39 Yeah, yeah. I've seen somewhere. You're dancing around. My friends. Amber Prince 6:44 Oh, you mean like private the private, private karaoke show? Sam Prince 6:50 Yeah. Yeah. Amber Prince 6:51 I tend to play the guitar a few times. Yeah. I mean, the carefree and didn't really? Sam Prince 6:59 Right. Exactly. Yeah. When you're like 13. Amber Prince 7:02 Right. Right. amongst your summer or summer party friends. Yeah, I think we played we one of my my best debuts was the that signs signs. Oh, yeah. Sam Prince 7:13 Are you doing Oh, karaoke, like, I think I want that was Amber Prince 7:19 my sister summer party. Sean is listening. She's still to this day. hold that against. Did you want? Yeah. Her summer party? Sam Prince 7:29 Says toys on when my sister would do to totally just take over? Yeah, yeah. Was it your mom filming at the time? Amber Prince 7:42 I believe so. Probably was, but they had those trials. You know, like the fancy tripod. That was Sam Prince 7:47 because the video cameras are so so huge. Yeah. Yeah. So I Amber Prince 7:51 think my mom and definitely had invested in one of those tripods. Sam Prince 7:55 That's cool. So getting up on stage doesn't scare you, like, or, you know, act in front of people. Amber Prince 8:03 Yeah, I don't, you know, I'm sure that there was always a fear, you know, memorizing lines. And but as you get older, you tend to overcome some of those fears. So now I'm not really afraid of that. I mean, I'm sure I would still get nervous. Don't get me wrong, Sam Prince 8:16 right. Yeah. Well, shoot. I still get nervous. So yeah, Amber Prince 8:20 I think it's just, it seems it's natural. Yeah. I don't know that you'll ever get to a point where you will ever have that butterfly feeling or that teeny bit of worry that you have to talk yourself out of Sam Prince 8:31 right? Never, never, never, never. Yeah. Well, cool. Well, I can't wait to see him something. For sure. Amber Prince 8:37 Yeah, that would be when time permits. We should definitely be auditioning our butts off just to get something fun like that. Yeah. Sam Prince 8:47 Yeah, for sure. For sure. So I want to talk to you about two things. Amber Prince 8:53 Let's say I'm serious Sam Prince 8:54 now. was serious time. Right. It is serious time for me. to Amber Prince 8:58 input the music for the serious. Yeah, that's right. Sam Prince 9:01 Don't don't what really they're just kind of thank yous are two thank yous one is for asking me that question. At the beginning of last year, do you remember that what that question was? Huh? Don't cheat. Amber Prince 9:21 I can't really free that far. You know, that's like, I mean, why Yeah, no, I'm not gonna try. Sam Prince 9:31 Okay. Well, I'll refresh your memory. You said you asked me what am I passionate about? passionate about? Amber Prince 9:38 Don't you think we all should ask ourselves that question? Absolutely. We, I mean, we do everybody says ask that question. But do we ever really ask that question to ourselves and make a plan to figure out what that passion is? Sam Prince 9:51 No. Right. The answer is no, I know. I you know, probably 10% of the population does that I know Amber Prince 9:57 and passion, right? I'm sorry. I'm I click off No, Sam Prince 10:00 no, no, no. Amber Prince 10:02 I'm just saying passion. You know, it doesn't even have to be like it stills work passions work, right? You can have a passion for something, but it's just not like a, it's just not gonna come to you. It's like a genie that you're rub and say, Here's my passion and it comes, there's still work involved behind the passion. So I don't want to make it sound like it's an easy thing. When I say go, You know what, we're gonna talk about this. And you're gonna say that you would after your passion, I'm going to say that you you're gonna be able talk about how that that doesn't always look like just this beautiful dream. It's hard. Sam Prince 10:35 Oh. Well, I mean, I don't really need to say much more, you pretty much took all my notes. I mean, that's, that's really well, first of all, you asked me that question, at 50 years old. was so humongous, because I never asked myself that question for 50 years. You know, Amber Prince 11:03 even when you went into cinema and all your you know, I mean, you majored in, in what you're wanting to do. So I'm saying you never thought to yourself, This is my passion. This is where I want to be? Sam Prince 11:18 And that's a great question. I mean, yeah, of course I did. But the problem is, is that I was distracted by everyone else in the way the world is, tells you how you should lead your life, Amber Prince 11:36 which is the part where the patch, the hard work, and the passion comes because you're distracted by what else the world says, you're supposed to do and supposed to be? Sam Prince 11:45 Exactly. I was surrounded before I met you, I was surrounded by people who said, Oh, you know, the acting thing, you know, that can be a hobby, you know, do that at night, sometimes, but get a real job. And, you know, don't make that your career. You know? Amber Prince 12:08 Well, let's be honest. I mean, you might have to have a real job and act. Sam Prince 12:13 I mean, oh, yeah. Amber Prince 12:14 I mean, I think that anyone who's going to start in any career, you almost have to have you have had that time commitment. I mean, my job like in the beginning is it requires a time commitment. Right, you know, it's to get where you want to be the road is long and hard. So yeah, I think the same thing for you like to tell someone that to be a hobby, a passion, it's easy to say that because acting is acting doesn't make money right away, being an artist doesn't make money right away. And that's, that's the shame of this world is that we don't recognize that the people with this creativity in this wonderful thing that brings happiness to people that we don't figure out how to compensate them for it. So yeah, for you that road looks like a full time job and acting right. Yeah. And you probably some people probably have to do that their whole acting career. Yeah, but you got to Live Your Passion a little bit right to live what you wanted to do. But you also had to work hard. Right? Yeah. Sam Prince 13:15 Right. Yeah. Amber Prince 13:16 I could see how somebody can say that, you know, you got to get a real job. I'm using quotation marks here real job and the passion be secondary to that. Sam Prince 13:26 Right. Yeah. Yeah. But I think when you make your passion a priority, I mean, yes, you still have to, you still have to bring in some some income. But if you make your passion a priority, I think that is the only way it can grow. You know what I mean? It's the only way that like you said, that doesn't make money in the beginning. But if you pour into it, and figure out those ways where you can grow it and you know, then I think over time, it can become something great. Amber Prince 14:11 Yeah, I think again, pouring into it allows you to hone it the skill and become great at it, you know, you you desire it more, you could go on a whole other tangent of you know, the law of attraction of pouring yourself into that passion attracts that things to you, you know, that takes time to Yeah. It's such a hard subject to talk about, you know, passion and your passion, your hobby and who distinguishes that for you and you know, yeah, can you can you make the long haul of making that passion become a career and Sam Prince 14:48 right. Yeah, really is. But Amber Prince 14:54 yeah, there should definitely be like some bumper stickers that say like support art like support support your passion support, especially artists and just what what? You know, I love to watch theater. I love to watch your production like, I mean, I sat through I don't even I could continue to keep watching it. It was fantastic. So that brings happiness, so many people that people don't even saw it. I mean, just how much they love it. Sam Prince 15:21 Yeah, yeah. Well, that brings me to my second point. So let me just thank you again for answering that question. Because it just ignited everything that's going on now and for the future, and I appreciate that. But the other thank you is for your support, which you just kind of mentioned, you know, and only saying, you know, hey, I want to be the breadwinner, here you go. Do your passion, which is unspeakably awesome, but also your emotional support, you know, I mean, you know, just, you just support me as we just are going through the process of rehearsing for Frederick and, you know, writing and all that stuff. I mean, you were just always just so supportive that, and then the major support that I got from you was like the first time you saw it, because you're just Amber Prince 16:33 throwing away your as backstory to that I mean, that you already know this. But as a kid, my mom took us to production all the time, different ballets and theaters, and specifically, there was an outdoor Frederick Douglass play that I was just moved by. It was fantastic. And the story of Frederick Douglass stuck with me, like I had a book of him that I carried well into my adulthood. It was just a book about his journey and who I was. When I got to see that I was probably, I don't even know probably, I would say anywhere between eight and 13. Maybe. And I was young, 10 and 13. Maybe, yeah. But it was, it was a fantastic play. And I've always just the story of Frederick and his journey and what he went through and his empowering people and yeah, but the way that you put it into words, the way that you you put to production, we took it to a whole nother level because it wasn't just it wasn't just about a brief glimpse into Frederick Douglass journey, it was Frederick Douglass life yeah. And to watch what he went through in such a way to for you to be able to put that all together in such a short amount of time, but yet to make it so powerful and so moving. And then when you play the part of a myself like that, it just took it to a whole nother level. Sam Prince 17:54 Yeah. Well, first of all, I should tell the audience that if you hear that beeping in the background, they're doing something on the beach. They're like dredging it or cleaning it or something. So hopefully they can't hear that. Right. Hopefully, you can hear that. But if you do, that's what they don't see. Okay. Amber Prince 18:15 Now, he definitely pointed it out. Sam Prince 18:17 Yeah, yeah. But hey, this is live live radio right here Amber Prince 18:23 in Newport Beach, California, Sam Prince 18:25 Newport Beach. Back to the Frederick you like I just appreciate everything you just said. And when you saw for the first time, you know, I really was looking for your reaction, you know, and your input. You know, it was it was a bad it sucked. And you know, there was tears in your eyes. Amber Prince 18:48 Just like I was just talking about it right now. Yeah. But yeah, Sam Prince 18:52 yeah. Right. And that was so I mean, tears in my eyes because that was just so it just validated all that hard work. And I knew that you would be honest with me, you know, like you would say you know, you would say that was kind of good. Like I am looking for two types of creative cats, looking for people who want to learn how to act, or want to improve their acting skills. I provide acting, audition coaching for every level. But I'm also looking for all those creative cats out there who have a play or screenplay idea. Or maybe you're just stuck and need help writing your masterpiece. I can help you with that too. Just go to Sambre dot productions. That's sa m b e r dot productions and click coaching. All your options are right there. We will achieve your goals together. It's never too late. Alright, let's go Sam Prince 20:13 Yeah, but I could tell that it was. It was worthwhile. So yeah, Amber Prince 20:20 I didn't realize this was gonna be thank yous. Sam Prince 20:22 This is thank yous because I mean, really that. I mean, like, I haven't figured out a title for this episode. Yeah, but this is really just about the support crew supporting creative loved ones supporting creative artists Amber Prince 20:36 share that would be interesting to hear other people talk about what they've supported in their, their, their spouses careers, because it really is a, you know, it is a support system, right? Sam Prince 20:49 Oh, my gosh, you have to have it. You have to have it, is it? You can't, Amber Prince 20:55 but you have to have support in your life period. And all avenues because we're all it's part of what a relationship is. It's part of like how healthy relationships operate. You know, Sam Prince 21:05 that's very true. You have to support in everything you do. I support your job. how hard you work. So yeah, you're right. Alright, so awesome. So that, hey, that was a great segue into just saying that you got to have those loved ones support. You know, and I thank you for that baby. Alright, so let's get into the game. So I asked you to give me eight of your favorite actors. Amber Prince 21:42 Well, first of all, he bullied me into a Just so everybody knows, like, goodness, I really only wanted seven, but then it was I had to have Sam Prince 21:51 any brackets. Amber Prince 21:52 Just I'm gonna get one more done with naming my suppose at eight. I'm gonna give you my four favorites. Sam Prince 22:03 Geez. So we're gonna pit them against each other. And then we are going to have a favorite. Okay. All right, so you're gonna, it's gonna be Amber Prince 22:15 okay. This is fine. You didn't tell me about this? Yeah, right. Okay, if you do this, then I wouldn't feel so pressured. I Sam Prince 22:21 was trying to give you the agenda. Oh, you weren't? Amber Prince 22:23 You just were like. Sam Prince 22:28 Alright, so here's the verse to that you got to pick from Okay. Tom Hanks was a great list by the way. A lot of my favorites. Do Tom Hanks versus Vince Vaughn. Amber Prince 22:43 G is what am I doing here? Sam Prince 22:46 Yeah, tell me favorite. Oh, really? Yeah. Amber Prince 22:49 Oh, you did that on purpose. You took a different shape. Did Sam Prince 22:52 I totally. I mean, I've heard Amber Prince 23:00 that you get that warning. I don't think you did. Okay, Sam Prince 23:03 you didn't. I kept trying to give you four warning. Oh, Amber Prince 23:08 you should type out a sheet so that people have expectations. I had Sam Prince 23:11 a sheet. Amber Prince 23:13 Okay, let's think here. I'm gonna have to go with Vince Vaughn. Because as much as I love Tom Hanks and I love Tom Hanks, right? I love comedy. And this sense of humor Vince Vaughn. More than I like to serious I mean if it's a tough one for me because Tom Hanks is iconic. He is I mean every movie he's done it he's done every genre of movie right like he's amazing and every one of them when it comes down to like to feel that part of it and it's fun because I love his sense of he makes me laugh just didn't when he says serious things. Sam Prince 23:49 He does he does but you didn't really grew up in the bosom buddies timeframe right and I know what this buddy Amber Prince 23:55 is i right you're right. Remember he was funny a lot of things I mean money pit kind of money pitch. He has his Derek goal and money pit. Yes, I know. Here's hysterical on the burbs. Sam Prince 24:14 Oh, the bird the Serbs. He was fantastic. To her. Amber Prince 24:18 Oh my gosh. Yeah. Fantastic movies. But when you talk about like, Sam Prince 24:24 Tom Hanks you think more serious. Amber Prince 24:26 I think more serious. I think I think of him being as more serious and I do enjoy his movies and enjoy who he is like his acting career. But when I like comedy more, Sam Prince 24:37 yeah, right. He should go back to doing some comedy. Just all of a sudden tonight. Just start just Amber Prince 24:42 Yeah, I wonder what that would be like, right? Because he kind of has really faded off into the sunset. And everything he has done since then has been very serious and still, that's a job. Yeah, but I do like how many more? Sam Prince 24:55 Wow, that's fine. Okay. So the second one We got Paul Giamatti. We got a Amber Prince 25:04 pig farmer from the Howard Stern movie. I'll never forget that. That was. I will forever think of him as football. I will call him anything else. Yeah. What's this really? Sam Prince 25:13 Paul Giamatti? Against Jason Bateman. Amber Prince 25:18 Oh, she is what Jason Bateman takes maybe I will take this whole list I think seriously? Yeah. Sam Prince 25:23 Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. Amber Prince 25:25 I absolutely. Sam Prince 25:27 Yeah, we love Amber Prince 25:29 Jason Bateman. Sam Prince 25:30 Yeah, we do love some Jason Bateman. Just. Yeah, yeah. All right. Let's see what happens. Okay, so the next one is Philip Seymour Hoffman. The late Phillips. Amber Prince 25:44 A really great actor. Sam Prince 25:45 Yeah. Against James Franco. Amber Prince 25:52 Wow. I love Philip Seymour Hoffman. Is it tough? That's a tough one. Yeah. I don't know James Franco that well, like, I don't know, a lot of his acting things. You know, like, when you talk about Vince Vaughn, you talk about Tom Hanks. Like, they both have had enough features that I know, you know, but with James Franco. I haven't seen I mean, he's hilarious. Everyone's that. I see. But I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go with Philip Seymour Hoffman, because he's iconic in my world. Sam Prince 26:19 Right? Yeah, I Amber Prince 26:20 want to we get a bit on a mission to watch as many folks anymore. I mean, all these kinds of movies. You know, like, what can we how many of them can we watch? Like, how can we get his whole library? Right? Sam Prince 26:30 Yeah. I don't think we've seen a model. You know, we haven't. Yeah, I Amber Prince 26:33 mean, he does some crazy ones when you really dig deep. Sam Prince 26:36 Oh, yeah. He did that one where he was like that artists. Cody. Oh, yeah. Amber Prince 26:42 Yeah. And then that one where he was the Huffer the gas. Sam Prince 26:46 I got to see that love Liza. Yeah, there's Amber Prince 26:49 so just yeah, he plays some and the role he plays isn't? Sam Prince 26:54 Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's a different dude. Every Amber Prince 26:56 time every time. Yeah. Sam Prince 26:59 Yeah. Okay. So then we got the women in the last bracket. Okay, Diane Keaton and Patricia Arquette. Amber Prince 27:09 Diane Kean. She was very iconic. Yeah, I don't know that I've seen her in a movie that I haven't liked. Right? She does such an elegant job of, of being an actress. I mean, her names are never in the headlines. Like she just she just will miraculously pop up in these great movies and looking fantastic for her age and, and own the park and then disappears again and then comes back to the center another movie, you know, so I appreciate that. I love for dish our cat though. And the things that I have seen her in the past now. I do know she did some TV shows that I did not see. So I don't know anything about that career. But of course true man. True Romance. That movie she did with Ben Stiller. Yeah, she was fantastic in that movie. What was the name of that movie? And Marissa Thomae was she and that was that no, that was worse to me. Flirting with Disaster. Anyone Sam Prince 28:05 does that? I was right. Oh, great. Yeah, let's get a lot of great stars Amber Prince 28:14 really does. Sam Prince 28:17 Alright, alright, so now see, we can do that with seven. All right, you're right. Amber Prince 28:24 See? So you could didn't even say that. You didn't even say the game. Come on the show or given the food. Sam Prince 28:35 Waste people could see my face to frustration. I had this whole agenda laid out for you. He didn't you're like Don't give me that. Anyway, anyway. Alright, so final four. We got Vince Vaughn versus Jason Bateman. Amber Prince 28:53 Jason Bateman. Sam Prince 28:55 Wow. No Even thought no even thought so ever. Okay. And then Philip Seymour Hoffman and Diane Keaton. Amber Prince 29:06 Philip Seymour Hoffman. All right. Yeah. Sam Prince 29:09 Okay. So then who is your favorite Jason Bateman? Oh, Amber Prince 29:13 Jason Bateman. overfills. Wow, we're Philip Seymour. Hoffman takes a second backseat to Jason Bateman. Sam Prince 29:23 Why do we love that new so much? Amber Prince 29:25 Well, I think half of America loves Jason Bateman. Yeah. I mean, he just is every everything he does from Arrested Development to the spelling bee to those are to the Yeah, you could go on and on. Right. Sam Prince 29:39 Yeah. Amber Prince 29:40 Just as some really great, great job at what he does and like even in the Ozarks. Like he could be so serious. And so we call that dry humor. Sam Prince 29:51 Yeah, it's a dry humor. Yeah, it's almost a dark, dry. Amber Prince 29:56 I don't I find it funny, Sam Prince 29:58 man. Just that one. line, you know? Like, like the like the whole family argument and he'll be like, Okay, no, no, it's just like that. Right? Yeah, no, come down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I love him. All right. Well, there we go. So Jason Bateman is the winner. Yeah. Yeah. I completely agree. So, last question. I like to ask everybody, and this is kind of putting you on the spot a little bit, but your job and your passion is, is more to just know, so I asked, usually actors or whoever, you know, what are their plans are creatively affect, you know, the world positively, you know, in their world. So, in your world? What are your plans to creatively affect the world positively and what you do, Amber Prince 31:00 I'm going to say, just what you said through what my job is now, you know, housing, I, I don't feel like I am a cookie cutter mortgage lender, like that, you know, when you when you take what I do, I take it to another level of, of wanting to help people. So I feel like my, my good in the world is in helping people navigate to their, their, you know, becoming a homeowner, I mean, I've helped people that probably have no positivity in their life of ever becoming a homeowner. I've helped guide them to how to do it. And now, three years later, they're taking that money they had in that house, and they're buying their dream house and you know, just leveraging people don't know about equity, people don't know about what, what what programs are available, and I guess education. And in I'd like to center it around housing, because housing affects everything in people's lives. Yeah, if you don't have housing, if you don't have any kind of safe housing, or any kind of affordable housing, or any kind of changes, who you become as a person. So I feel like, that's where I'm wanting to be, that's where my passion is, is helping people achieve a dream of having wealth, you know, in a different kind of way. It's not just about working at everyday, but using tools to build wealth in a different way. And I feel like I've been placed here to do that. And I've, I've honed in on my skill enough that I know that this is where I'm supposed to be. Sam Prince 32:35 Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you have helped. I've seen you help people who, like families who have never owned a home and like generational. Yeah, Amber Prince 32:46 and just people that come down on their luck, you know, people that that have been turned down for years. Because there were small things on their credit that that they were embarrassed about, and others have shame them or told them. I mean, we're all kinds of stories, if you have, if you can think of a bad story that's attached to your credit, or attached to a housing story, or attached to a bad divorce or a bad relationship and all these things, it's like, come to the table with me. You don't I mean, come to the table, I've been through them all, I'm going to get one motion by like, come sit with me, come sit with me, because I'm going to tell you, I have I have been through every walk of that journey. And I'm going to tell you how you can get on the other side of Sam Prince 33:35 a man, ah, preach. I mean, that is a gift, though, you know, to be able, you know, I hear you every day. So to be able to look at somebody's credit. And say, Okay, if you do this, this and this, and 60 to 90 days, whatever, you will be able to buy house Amber Prince 33:57 and I want you to understand we're not talking about like credit repair, like these advertisements. I mean, when he says that like this, this and this, this is just my advice to them free advice to them, of doing this. And I can't tell you how many times in my career. I mean, you and I have worked together in that way in the past, you know, what, 15 years ago in lending and you to know that when we weren't even a relationship how, you know, you would be wouldn't be able to get that house had it not been for someone like myself or you or somebody else thinking outside the box for them have ways to be creative because you're passionate about making them become that about helping them overcome that obstacle, right. And that's just in the space that I live is just that like, I feel like my goodness that happens to me is because of the goodness that I give. Sam Prince 34:50 So that's a good way to hear. Okay, all right. Well, thank you, babe for joining me. So appreciate it. So so far was fun. We got to do it again. For sure. No, I was thinking, you know, I've never done that game for me. So maybe you can ask me, my top Amber Prince 35:12 a one day. You've never done that game with other people. Sam Prince 35:15 I've always done it with other people. For myself. Yeah, but it's funny when you were doing and I was like, Yeah, well, that's my favorite. Yeah, right, I'm sure. Yeah. Well, thank you again. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks for listening. We will catch you next time on The Creativitorium podcast. See you later. Bye. Sam Prince 35:49 Hey, thank you for listening to the creativitorium podcast. Again, my name is Sam Prince. And it is my honor to be your host and thank you so much for listening. I would also be honored if you could leave a review on Apple podcasts and say some nice things about what you just heard. And definitely please listen every week. We come out every Tuesday. 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